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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #15 am: August 22, 2011, 14:26:43 Nachmittag »
hab gelesen das er wohl 11kg gefunden haben soll und auch eine 3,?kg Mainmass.
Man wird sehen.


Wie hat er sich wohl mit den Militärs vor Ort geeinigt?

Irgendwie beschleicht mich das Gefühl, dass man ohne bei facebook zu sein von nun an mit einem 'Informationsverzögerungs-Defizit (IVD)' leben muss.
Schade, schade .... :traurig2:
Muss ich jetzt meine privaten Daten an facebook 'verkaufen', um den 'kostenlosen' Service nutzen zu können.  :gruebel: :confused: :platt: :crying:

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #16 am: August 22, 2011, 14:37:32 Nachmittag »
Irgendwie beschleicht mich das Gefühl, dass man ohne bei facebook zu sein von nun an mit einem 'Informationsverzögerungs-Defizit (IVD)' leben muss.
Schade, schade .... :traurig2:

Naja du hast auf jeden Fall recht das diese Info über Facebook kam + ein Bild von Ihm und einer Einheimischen wo er die 3,5kg Mainmass hält.

Grüße David :hut:

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #17 am: August 22, 2011, 14:47:52 Nachmittag »
Irgendwie beschleicht mich das Gefühl, dass man ohne bei facebook zu sein von nun an mit einem 'Informationsverzögerungs-Defizit (IVD)' leben muss.
Schade, schade .... :traurig2:
Naja du hast auf jeden Fall recht das diese Info über Facebook kam + ein Bild von Ihm und einer Einheimischen wo er die 3,5kg Mainmass hält.
Grüße David :hut:

HIIIIILFE ! Ich stehe auf der falschen (oder doch nicht :gruebel:) Seite der 'digital divide'. Ich habe mich selbst degradiert zum rechten Mann auf folgendem Bild. Wo ist meine Buschtrommel?

http://mooreslore.corante.com/archives/images/digital%20divide%202.jpg

Wenigstens habe ich noch meine Arbeit  :laughing: :
http://www.concurringopinions.com/archives/images/facebook-cartoon.jpg

http://www.unripe.com/comics/2006-09-16%20cartoon%2084%20digital%20divide.jpg
http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/aba/lowres/aban593l.jpg

 :prostbier:

Martin
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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #18 am: August 24, 2011, 00:14:21 Vormittag »
Mike Farmer äußert sich erstmals zu seinen Funden in Kenia:

Zitat
I am announcing the recovery of over 11.7 kilograms of the new Kenya
meteorite fall from 16 July, 2011
.

I saw the news of the fall on 17 July, and purchased a ticket to Kenya about
4 hours later. I arrived in Kenya on 20 July, and on the morning of 21
July, less than 125 hours after the fall, I had more than a kilo in hand.
Upon arriving at the fall location, I met a guy who knew a girl who saw a
stone land only 5 feet from her in a coffee field while working at ~10:30 am
when the explosions rocked the sky. It was cloudy at the fall site so no one
saw anything, just heard massive explosions and then loud whistling and
sounds that most described as gunfire.

Moments after buying that stone, I went to another house of a boy who found
a 777 gram stone in a coffee field about 30 minutes after the fall.

I stayed 9 days in Kenya, purchasing 10.5 kilos of stones, including the as
of now main mass of 3.5 kg. The first stone that was reported on the news
weighs less than 2.5 kg, not 5 kg reported.

Most interesting about this fall is that it also has 3 seperate
hammerstones
!

First is a househitter that smashed through a metal house roof. I paid to
have the rooftop cut out and purchased several fragments of the meteorite,
including more on this trip.

Second was a stone that weighed more than 350 grams which went through the
roof of a greenhouse, and was witnessed by a man working there, it smashed
into a metal growing table and exploded into hundreds of pieces. I have all
of that one and the plastic hole where it was cut out to be patched.

Third is another greenhouse smasher from the same complex, found only 3
days ago by workers moving plants out. It broke into several pieces
virtually all of which Greg Hupe and I recovered. It has been subjected to
high humidity for a month.


I have built a strewnfield map of all but 3 pieces, with exact locations.

I returned almost two weeks ago for round two with Greg Hupe. We were able
to purchase only an additional 6 stones totalling 1150 grams.

This fall is not thick, despite intense searching by hundreds of people who
need the money very badly, they have found little.

We hired 25 workers for the last two weeks, working from 8 am to 6 pm
scouring the bushland, cornfields, banana plantations, and coffee fields,
without a single recovery from them. I hunted and walked a great many miles
myself with no finds. This was a large fall but seems to be very spread out
and large areas are either not huntable or are under heavy cultivation as
harvest and tilling is going on now.

I have already sold several large pieces of this meteorite, I will have some
for sale, but less than 1 kg.

I will be building a page about it in the next 48 hours as I am in London
now, on my way home. It is already in the lab under study, thin sections on
the way and from my own observations I think this meteorite will likely be
an L4 or 5.

It has no brecciation or veining other than what I suspect are some metal
veins seen from the outside, have cut nothing.

Expect to hear more from me as soon as I get rested up and get my site
ready.

There will be little of this available, mostly small fragments, I may have
one or two larger stones available, 279~ g and 313~ gram 100% complete, but
not cheap!

Expenses were more than $1000 per day not including airfare. Nobody works
for free in Kenya, to get them to move, money had to come out.

In their own words " I need to be properly motivated". Heard that exact
phrase more than once.

Michael Farmer
(Quelle: Met-List, 24.8.11, 0.07 Uhr, Die Hervorhebungen sind von mir)
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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #19 am: August 24, 2011, 07:08:35 Vormittag »
Und noch mehr Informationen von Mike (für alle ohne Met-List):

Zitat
A little more background on the fall,

First want to thank Greg Hupe who went with me for trip #2 less than a week after trip one. I wanted to get more money, get the first stones home safe and in the lab and back to Kenya. I had to cancel another trip planned for months with Greg, so only proper thing to do was invite him. He was most accomodating of the rapid change in continents we were going to visit when he saw the stones I got from the first trip.

Congrats to Robert Ward who also recovered a stone in the field, saving it from sure destruction under tropical rains.


We had a lot of fun, we also worked our asses off, dawn to dark, endless hours of every day stuck in traffic jams just to reach the strewnfield.
Cobras, yes, I am not kidding, Greg had close encounter with a Cobra that stood up and scared one of our workers nearly to death, he ran from the field, Greg went to see it but it went down a hole before he saw it. Place crawling with snakes, I was of course in shorts:) so after the worker came screaming to the car, I left the field myself for safer quarters.

The people were nice, the secret police found us, threatened us, got to the point and demanded their cut of the payday to allow us to work. The usual in Africa, another day, another shilling.

I paid great money to the locals, either for stones or for workers and supervisors to monitor the workers, money none of them could refuse, most of them got a year or years of salary for stone worthless to them, changed their lives. For example the woman who sold me the 3.5 kg stone bought cows and pigs, went back to give her photos I promised her, she told me she invested some of the money in livestock, she bought 4 piglets and told me in a year she would have 20 pigs. she could not afford a single pig before that meteorite fell and like a gift from heaven, she got more money than she had ever seen in her life. I will not sell it.

More than one month after the fall, hundreds of deperately poor people searching, 11.8 kg has been found plus the ~2.5 kg original mass.
I thought more would be found, but not so easy.

I flew 39,224 miles, spent more than $28,000 on expenses, went on safari, saw things I have never seen, and recovered a meteorite for science and collectors alike.

Hopefully this is a good thing, but sadly I am sure some will try to destroy my work.
Thanks for the support from those who like what I do to get you the things in your collections.
(Quelle: Met-List, 24.8.11, 3.45 Uhr)

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #20 am: August 24, 2011, 15:38:41 Nachmittag »

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #21 am: August 24, 2011, 18:14:28 Nachmittag »

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #22 am: August 24, 2011, 21:31:51 Nachmittag »
Erste Bilder von G. Hupé von der Met-List (24.08.11, 21.22 Uhr):

Zitat
Hello All,

The Kenya hunt was exciting and tiring at the same time. Here are some
images of two of the meteorites I brought home...

Me with beautiful 50.4g 'pyramid' collection piece:
http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/image6.jpg

Close-up of 50.4g individual:
http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/image3.jpg

300g Greenhouse Hammer 002, reassembled and held with rubber bands and
cellophane until I can get some better pics in a day or two after resting
up:
http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/image39.jpg

Shameless advertising for Marlin Cilz whose pen was appreciated in Kenya! :)
http://www.lunarrock.com/Kenya2011/image19.jpg

Best Regards,
Greg

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #23 am: August 26, 2011, 16:25:42 Nachmittag »

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #24 am: August 31, 2011, 20:31:21 Nachmittag »
Er heißt

Mwana Wikio

Kiambu County, Thika District, Kenia

 :hut:

Martin
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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #25 am: August 31, 2011, 23:56:26 Nachmittag »
OFF-TOPIC

Ich bin gespannt auf das CRE Alter von MWANA WIKIO.
Vielleicht war er so lange unterwegs, wie diese Faustkeile in Kenia im Boden lagen.
Es handelt sich bei diesen 1,76 Millionen Jahren alten Faustkeilen um die ältesten der Welt.

http://www.n-tv.de/wissen/fundsache/Aeltester-Faustkeil-in-Kenia-article4183066.html (31.8.2011)

Die wunderbaren Steine kommen in Kenia aus der Erde und auf die Erde. :smile:

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #26 am: September 01, 2011, 19:27:41 Nachmittag »
Er heißt

Mwana Wikio

Kiambu County, Thika District, Kenia

 :hut:

Martin

Wenn es nach Mike Farmer geht, soll der Fall

Kihum Wiri

heißen.  Zwei verschiedene Namen für denselben Fall :gruebel:

Es soll ein L6 sein.

Hier ist Mikes prompte Antwort auf meine Anfrage:

Zitat
It fell in 4 different villages, Graystone, Muguga, Kihum Wiri and Mwana Wikio. I wanted Mwana Wikio, but it does not exist in a database of names, nor does any of them, but they exist, they are real villages and it should be named for where it fell. Kihum Wiri is where the first stone fell and the largest pieces were found, it is mentioned in the newspaper and news reports. It has the best chance of approval by the nomcom. I hate to call it Thika, nearest large town with is more than 10 miles away.
Michael Farmer

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Martin
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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #27 am: September 07, 2011, 06:34:42 Vormittag »
Gestern ist folgender Artikel auf der 'Sky and Telescope' - Website erschienen:

http://www.skyandtelescope.com/news/129312598.html

Martin

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #28 am: September 22, 2011, 08:20:33 Vormittag »
Mike zeigt einige seiner Sammlungsstücke,
einschließlich der main mass des neuen Kenia-Falls.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll8GMm91u0Y

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Re: Fall in Kenia am 16.7.
« Antwort #29 am: September 27, 2011, 07:29:50 Vormittag »
Und schon ist er im Met-Bulletin, und nun doch mit dem Namen

THIKA

L6
S1, W0
1°0.167’S, 37°9.017’E

http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meteor/metbull.php?code=54493

 :hut:

Martin

 

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